
10-17-2007, 04:43 PM
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We are born with free will, doesnt matter what you believe in... you have a choice what path to choose. Whatever you choose be prepared to enjoy the reward it may bring, and be prepared to take responsibilties for your actions and face the conscequences.
At the end of the day we are all gonna die, no point worrying too much into the unknown, think about NOW and what you see,hear, touch, smell and taste and how you are going to affect something or someone whether it be good or bad TODAY!
No matter what, where or who we are we all share something in commen, something that we strive for, and thats to be happy, to be free and to be loved! Everyone has one commen goal but our actions and methods to get them differ and thats how good and evil appear.. its what and how we preceive others intentions next to our own!
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10-18-2007, 08:15 AM
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Sorry to keep you guys waiting I have been busy and just didn't feel going online for the last few days anyway here are the answers.
We are all born neutral with no concept of what is right or wrong, good or evil. What we consider as good or evil is based on our perception based on how we we were raced as children and the environment we lived in our lives.
God nothing more than a word we use this word to describe things we don't fully understand like our feelings how can love hurt and how can anger be good etc. Atheists may not call it god (they don't believe in other worldly powers) so they call it human nature or what ever term they use the describe it but God is nothing more than a term created by the human race and only that.
Humans are the source of their own happiness, sadness, pain, and agony. It is all governed by what I call cause and effect. Everything we do has a positive or negative effect based on how we perceive things. Nature in general does what it does, it isn't out to kill us we decide if we let it affect us or not. If we do ever find out when a major earthquake will hit LA (the next big one) as an example and we know exactly when it will happen it will be up to us to suffer and only see the devastation or leave the place so we don't deal with the lose of life and simple things we hold dear to us like our pets or furniture.
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10-18-2007, 08:38 AM
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Here are a few more questions
Is life really as hard as we often say it is?
Was there really a beginning or ending to existence overall?
What is time?
Have fun trying to figure the answers out I will post answers later.
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10-30-2007, 05:47 AM
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This world is just an illusion by the demiurge. The true form is always of Chaos.
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11-11-2007, 04:35 PM
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evil, nothing, us
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11-16-2007, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Knapstar
Are any of you into philosophy see the world through the eyes not fogged by our own feelings and emotions in any way seeing the world as it really is not as we want to see it. Here are 3 basic questions I will post the answers later in a few days after I hear some of your answer. If I get a good response then I will post a few more questions.
One thing that should be stress is that if you let your feelings dictate your answer it will be wrong and if you hear the answers you will be amazed as how simple the questions are to answer. Don't let your feelings get in the way either just put them aside for the time being just for these questions. I am devout christian as well so don't think of me as an atheist.
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I'm no Theist at all neither atheist nor nihillist! But I hate labels.
Neither am I christian tho...
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Are we born good or evil?
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Neither! Everything just is. Good or bad are never objective but always subjective and thereforee only exist within our perception.
That being said we are a product of our surroundings aswell as genes... so prolly both.
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What is God? (Hint the answer has nothing to do with religion)
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God is an fictional character in the bible
Nahhh I'd say god is life, creation, you and me and everything that is.
We're all one! seriously... try meditation
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Who is ultimately responsible for our problems? the human race or nature
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We are, every individual creates their own problems.
If you mean society then I'll still say the human ego is. You know our greed, apathy, limited acception of reality, hatred, fear all that stuff.
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11-16-2007, 11:20 PM
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Hey... I like your answers
I hadn't read them before posting though! I swear  I just read the questions on the first page and then answered them.
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Here are a few more questions
Is life really as hard as we often say it is?
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Who is we? And what is hard? Well life sure isn't fair.
But yeah life is as hard or easy as we make it. It also depends on what we want or think that we need to be happy.
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Was there really a beginning or ending to existence overall?
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Easy tiger...
First of we still exist so the hasn't been an end yet. As for a beginning... claiming to know that would be unmeasurable arrogance.
My guess is no tho. There always was something and there always will be something.
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What is time?
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A measurment of the now
So yeah it's an abstract concept that works very well with reality.
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Have fun trying to figure the answers out I will post answers later.
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11-17-2007, 01:49 AM
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i lie philosophy, and like to read socrates (weird i know. im in 8th grade....[yays i skipped one, but im not happy])but i dont feel like thinking right now.
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11-17-2007, 02:23 AM
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What is this "Good" or "Evil" that one speaks of? For, if you want an answer without opinions or emotions there is no answer. Its a trick question.
God is a word often used to give an answer to my first answer. Being as how that ultimately was a trick question; The word "God" is just that, a word.
For number three; My answer once again falls on number one, for "Good" and "Evil" are plays on emotions. So my return question is: "Wheres the problem?".
I will finish the others at a later date.
Thank you for your patients on reading this.
Good night.
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What is this "Good" or "Evil" that one speaks of? For, if you want an answer without opinions or emotions there is no answer. Its a trick question.
Good night.
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11-18-2007, 04:58 AM
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We are born with a clean slate. We aren't truly responsible for our own actions until we gain experience and learn what IS right and wrong. Even then they need more time (say, until theirs about 8 years of age) to know enough about what is right and what is wrong for them to be able to be accountable for their own actions.
God is one that is "superhuman". Not a guy with extraordinary powers, but I mean whatever we worship -- money, cars, celebrities -- is a god (lower-cased). Whatever we put "above" ourselves and worship is a god. God (capitalized) means that there's only one, meaning there's only ONE above all, such as Allah, Yahweh/Jehovah, Heavenly Father (Christian God), Buddha, etc.
Ultimately, each person who is RESPONSIBLE for their actions is also ACCOUNTABLE for their own actions. The human race and nature have no part in what one does except for adding INCENTIVES to choices. For instance, choosing whether to get drunk or not, there are incentives to do (If you don't drink, your friends will think you're a wimp...) and to don't (You want to get home alive tonight?). Our choices determine our path in live.
Since none of us have ever "completed" life and came back to tell about it (pronounced-dead-in-a-hospital-and-then-suddenly-woke-up stories don't count) except for one (Jesus Christ, if you believe in the New Testament), how can we stop, turn around, recount our whole life's experience and say "Man, that was tough!" or "Man, that was so easy!" Truth or it is, you can't look at life in absolutes. You can't say your whole life was hard/easy. Of course life is hard! If it weren't, we would've never come out of our mothers to take part of it.
The Bible/Torah/Koran all describe the creation of the world. They never give an account of existence(s) before ours. The Bible/Torah/Koran each give a history of THIS world. All I can say is, who knows if there ever really is any REAL beginning? As humans, we're closely fixated on a linear track called TIME. No matter what, for us it's always linear and in a closed interval (math people get what I mean by this). Meaning that there is a point somewhere at both ends of the interval, meaning that time in limited. However, with such a limited view, we can't really see the big picture. Open intervals from negative infinity to positive infinity; meaning time and existance always has been, and always will be.
Time, in a down-to-earth, bare-bones sense, is the dimension that 3D universes (like ours) travels across. If the 0th Dimension is a single infinitely-small dot (like our universe before the Big Bang), an infinite amount of dots lined up side-by-side make a line, the 1st Dimension. A bunch of lines stacked perpendicular to the direction the lines are oriented make a flat plane, the 2nd Dimension (2D)(like a square). A bunch of planes stacked similarly make a 3D object (like a cube). The next dimension up would be 4D, which is time.
Time, on a more practical sense, requires no definition, as we cannot truly affect it. Live with it.
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